Opinions?

(Prolly asked before, sorry, but like fresh opinions...also...)

Oh, also the Doors movie? They seem to be playing it a lot on cable these days.

Danke,

Michael

Break on Thru was accurate but I felt it somewhat boring as it got too technical....
also, it was too long.
The Door's movie was a joke......having Val Kilmer play Jim as a drunken lout and Pamela as a silly flower child. They were any thing but!!!
One good thing about the movie is that it made younger people aware of the Doors and brought the band once again to the forefront with renewed interest in their music along with Jim himself.
We NEED those young fans as alot of Doors fans (including myself) are getting 'up' there in age and Jim's legacy has to be carried on. .... Welcome to our forum....Jacky

Break On Through: pretty accurate, very well researched. It remains a favorite.


Doors Movie? A joke, a piece of garbage,not worth the time it takes to watch it. The best part was the five seconds of Dana Plato as an extra in a crowd concert scene or John Densmore's role as Jon Haeney. Kilmer's portrayal of Jim as an unfocusing monotone dolt is going to send him and Oliver Stone straight to The Ninth Circle Of Hell.

Break On Through is the definitive Jim Morrison biography. There are some inaccuracies. The book claims that Jim went for his army physical before forming The Doors with Ray and meeting John and Robby when in fact it was John who drove Jim to get his army physical as John recounted in his book. At one point in the book, Robby is given credit for writing You're Lost Little Girl, and at another point in the book, Jim is given credit for writing it. Despite these and possible other inaccuracies, it is a very thorough and well researched book.

The Doors movie is slanderous. I don't have a problem with the inaccuracies as it is a Hollywood movie and Hollywood movies about real people are rarely accurate. It's the nature of some of the inaccuracies that I have a problem with. In the film, he drops out of college when he actually graduated. He speaks in a very spacey way. He is portrayed as being abusive and miserable to be around in virtually every scene.

I'm working on Break On Through - been too hot here to do anything but stare at mindless television.
Right now, the Vornado is standing on it, so it's serving a useful purpose.

Oliver Stone's film is mostly fan fiction and embarrasingly so.

I had no idea that JD portrayed JH. Not exactly physically similar types - JH being more of the curly-haired, mustachioed variety.

Interesting... (replying to all the comments here, you go a bit more in-depth, but there seems to be a consensus).

Just started the book... been reading in bits and pieces. I have not liked that it relies so much on second hand information, as interesting as it is to get opinions from people who were there... Morrison is obviously a deep person who people misunderstand, so you see every sort of imagining about what he said or did or why he said or did a thing. Most of which I find rarely rings true. Fascinating, in a sense of seeing how people perceive, though at times it gets extremely derogatory. (It seems when people miss, they always fire too low.)

That seems to be why they miss entirely, actually.

I don't think people can perceive someone better then them.

Doors movie: agree it is junk, just wanted other opinions there and was wondering if anyone saw any good in it at all. I don't expect people who retell "legends" to ever get it right, though. It would be nice if someday someone remade the story, but from what I have seen on video tape of Morrison that would be thoroughly impossible. The guy just glowed at every statement and everytime he was caught on video tape. Walking personification of cool.

Even if someone could be found who was as good looking as him, they couldn't convey the way he talked and moved.

Curious, what is your impression of Pamela? Like Jim, she seems to be painted with all sorts of cloud covered misinterpretations... from the extremely derogatory to the obviously strange.

I find the pair of them fascinating, both were very beautiful, oddly so, externally and internally. (Very rare thing.) Though, I have never had much of a clear picture of Pamela.

(Not that there are not plenty of other such people out there who are internally beautiful, but the whole doors romance thing is fascinating.)

Pamela facinated me in many ways 1st. She walked off with the prize. 2nd. She was so beautiful it hurt to look at her. 3rd. I felt really, really bad about what happened to her after the death of Jim. You would think one of the Door's family would give her a fair shake, but nothing like that ever happened. I remember in Ray's 'Light my Fire' he mentions he ran into her at some seaside restaurant and she was distraught and hardly holding herself together. WHY DID HE NOT REACH OUT HIS HAND TO HELP HER?
Why did no one reach out their hands to help her? No, it was all Jim, Jim, Jim.
Rumor had it she killed him/all she wanted was his money ... once Jim passed away she was forgotton about and it wasn't like she was a casual date or a one night stand although that was how she was treated. She was suffering badly and suffering alone...
I just don't understand out of all the people connected with the band...no one inquired about how she was doing. That's my beef!!!!!! Thanks for asking. Jacky

I find that odd, too, Jacky. It's as though, after the early years of their fame, Jim and Pam were sort of detached from the rest of the band and their girlfriends/wives. What is so apparent to me in Ray's book is how he seemed to be really tuned in to Jim in those early days, and then he discusses the "later" Jim as a casual observer might. Someone who wasn't involved with Jim at all. Maybe the alcohol helped to distance Ray from Jim--it's hard to be around an alcoholic.

Right now I have to say Break On Through is the definitive Morrison bio.

Ray liked Jim and he did not like Jimbo, the Mr. Hyde side of Jim. Jimbo took over more and more, which is apparent from John's book too.

I don't know that Pam was popular with the other guys/girls around Jim and the band either. Didn't Tony Funches refer to her as 'fingernails on a blackboard'?

I must say that when reading break on through I could not put it down. The great thing is you can find anything you want to read about as it is in sections. It is the only book to mention the closet fire that happened in the movie as well. No one here gets out alive is a good read and given it was one of the first written and by 2 that were associated with jim was at the time factual but break on through I thouroughly enjoyed more because it had more information and very comprehensive.

As for the movie john densmore says its "a thirdsinaccurate" so are we talking 70 percent? Meg ryan did a good jogb of potraying pamella, their voices are similiar and you can hear that in one of jim's last interviews. where she talks as well) It may not be the full story of their relationship, only snippets and some depressing too, I hate the fact that there is a lot of abuse in that movie but stone wanted to make what he thought was an interesting jim morrison which turned out to be a tortured artist. Some great scenes but not the complete story of the doors but maybe what no one here gets out alive left out. The members of the doors thought kilmer did a great job to some justification.

The oither doors claim they did not know pamella that well but danny sugarman gives a good insight about her in his book wonderland avenue.

Very well said......great post. Jacky

I think they all had their own lives and when it comes to Ray, when he got to know Jim, he was already settled down and obviously ready to start a family. I think when you're in this time in your life then you're not into being closely involved with people that are self-destructive. When it comes to Pam, she was self-destructive too and instable. I do not find
it strange at all that the other Doors members were not into taking care of someone when they had family of their own and wives. I think when it comes to Pam, she was not really all alone because she had family too with mom, dad, sister but she maybe did not use what she had left. All she saw and thought about was Jim and then she died because she could not see a life without him. There's something about Pam that always reminded me of someone that when she met Jim, she was a little girl but in the relationship she did not grew at all, she stayed that little girl. She was left without him and then she was already lost. Females can lose themselves in relationships, especially when they're still young and I always found the outcome of Pam as a warning of what can be if you become your relationship.

I can understand that impression because imagine a female that's dependent, can not be without, expectations rise that he should be there to make her feel better when she's not and if you're Jim then you're an independent person. It does turn into "fingernails on a blackboard".

Pam wasn't exactly a dying fly of a personality. She was quite tough, owned guns, ran her own business, and gave Jim back as good as he gave. In Break on Through, Mirandi Babitz, who lived with Jim and Pam on and off, says they had fights that were monumental and loud. Remember Pam wrote "Faggot" on Jim's favorite jacket and so on. I'd really suggest reading Break on Through if possible. Jim adored her. And vice versa. They were the perfect pair. When she was around, Jim hopped to it.

I do have the book, for some years but have not read it from page one to the last. I have read some parts and from what I've seen of it, I get the impression that it's a well written book and professional.

When it comes to Jim and Pam they sure knew how to provoke each other. I can understand that, I think anyone would have reacted strongly with someone like Jim because I think there was a lot of hurt and pain in their relationship together with very strong emotions. The 60's or not, I think Jim sleeping around and being away for long periods could have not been easy or always okay for her, maybe something she emotionally did not always understand. I honestly think Pam was hurt a lot in this relationship and in the lifestyle, it must have also changed something about her so I would like to know Pam as her family knew her before Jim. That would be nice to know.

I agree with that. Jim had his problems and unfortunatlely maybe, Pam went along with the ride good and bad but according to some reports she was strong and independant and determined. I remember reading in NOGOA that Pam watned an ordinary life but jim said that even with or without the doors he could not give that. Maybe it was his destiny to die young, he knew he would nefer have a family and his lifestyle would not warrant that. I do not know if he had lived if he and Pam would have survived together. I do not think pam knew about drugs before she met jim, she was a college dropout but got into clothes designing and Morrison funded her boutique, so there is a little inde and dependence there.

- of course she did! Also, she wasn't a college drop-out, she went to design school here in LA. Jim backed her financially because he believed she could make money with Themis - she might have done if she could stop giving clothes away! In fact, Pam could easily have opened a boutique in Paris or in London. She knew plenty of people in Europe. That may very well have been the ultimate plan, but she was also running with "Eurotrash" (a press expression, not mine) like the Count (seems so pretentious to refer to an 18 year old heroin dealer as a Count, but he was), and Jim was not as socially connected as Pam in Europe.

Pam didn't necessarily 'go along with the ride,' half the time she was behind the wheel, figuratively speaking!

I agree, though, that they most likely would have parted ways sooner or later.

what I meant was Pam did not experiment with drugs before she met jim, although this is not known before. Yes, sometimes they did take turns on that wheel their share of being behind it. Pam and jim were young sweet romantics trying to realise their dreams but when they did things went out of control, jim was like that before pam anyway, we never will know they may have parted. Patricia Kenneally believed that jim would go and be with her when jim came back from Paris. Open to debate, I guess.

I doubt that's true. She was up on the Strip hanging out on the weekends. Pam and Jim, sweet young romantics?! Hardly! Very much a product of their environment.

Jim go back to PK? Just as likely to stick hot needles in his eye than do that. The woman relentlessly stalked him to LA and then to Miami, with her whining little problems, when he's on trial. So thoughtful of her.

I've found a huge error on page 356 of the book, in which it is reported that in 1970, Elektra threw a party for the opening of their new offices, and Tom Baker and Jim and I think Danny then came over and Baker egged Jim into trashing things. As someone who was actually working at the label in 1970, let me assure everyone that Elektra was situated in a small building at 959 N. La Cienega, with one office in it, occupied by Russ Miller. There was a hallway and another large undefined office area, occupied by Pat Faralla, our publicity director. Going out the back door into the alleyway, you came upon a house trailer, occupied by Penny Dolginer, Russ's secretary. I sat in a shared office space in front of the interior door of Studio B. Sue Helms had the desk behind me. There was barely room to swing a feline. Across the street, the label rented a few offices to house the sales and marketing staff, i.e. Harvey Perr and Risa Potter. The Doors offices were next door. 962 N. La Cienega, the future home of Elektra Records, was very much under construction at the time Jim, Baker, etc. were supposed to come over and trash things. There was nothing there to trash. It was all empty rooms under construction, and all these 'executive suites,' were small offices. We had a pretty nice office for Russ, when we finally opened, and Jac would use that office when he was on the coast. Until around March 1971, the place was really nothing but a construction zone. I was one of the first people to occupy the new building - I think I moved over in September 1970, and ran the switchboard from there, while everyone else drifted over as things were prepared for them. This went on until after the New Year, 1971. We had the opening party in March 1971. As I've noted many times, Jim was alone sitting on the window seat of the round window of the Clear Light building, looking out. He may have been up on the roof earlier, I couldn't say. Bruce Harris and Steve Harris spotted him and sent me across the street to get him and bring him over to the party. He asked me what was going on, and I told him it was a party for the opening of the new offices, and I had been sent to invite him over. We walked across the street together - he was all in black, I recall that - and we were greeted by Bruce Harris and Steve Harris, then Jim was intercepted by Bill Harvey in the hallway, our general manager and art director. Jim was a model of good manners the entire evening. Babe came over later, and a g.f. of Jim's called Sara. Danny, etc. were over at Themis - probably wandered in at some point. Salli Stevenson also came over and spoke with Jim at the gathering. Right before I left, I saw Jim and Babe sitting quietly in one of the studio playing rooms - Studio A - eating guacamole and chips, and talking to each other. I asked Billy James to keep an eye on Jim to make sure he was okay when I left, and Billy told me the next day that he and Jim hung out in his office for a while - a glamorous executive suite that Billy was sharing with Diane Gardiner LOL! - and Jim was having very little to drink. Jac was there, and a lot of the WEA honchos. The party was mostly for those type people, and Jim was the only artist of ours to show, and then only by accident.

Tom Baker was nowhere to be seen, and thank God for that. The man was a menace.

Somehow I like Sally's version of the evening better,though stories about nothing happening doesn't sell books I guess. Surely had the incident happened as described in the book Sally would have heard and seen all about it the next day.

I didn't know the Doors ever had an office on La Cienega. I only ever knew of the office on Santa Monica Blvd. and the editing room/office Jim had rented above the Clear Thoughts building that also housed Themis at 947 La Cienega.

Also I believe Break On Through ( or was it another book?) describes Pamela driving a car through the front glass of Themis after Jim's passing. This would have been physically impossible as the front of the building was situated above street level.

Another Lizard King myth exploded on the John Densmore message board. There was a party and Jim was seen eating chips and guacamole with Babe Hill.


Somehow I have the feeling that if Jim had any inkling when he walked across the street to that party that if it was to be a subject of a discussion forty years into the future by people thousands of miles apart using home computers, he would have thought the future is one hell of a boring place.

Well, she was pregant with supposedly his baby. A wake up call maybe, but in the sixties as today people were 2 timing maybe PK was as well, I do not want to get too controversial and there have been many stories. Morrison had to be honest with her, he did not want that kind of life, supporting a kid or whatever, I guess she had high hopes, to this day she has not had kids and I am not sure if she is married.

Yes indeed. I'm at work and I'm bored

At least I have you guys

If you recall, their office was addressed on Santa Monica, but stood on the corner of La Cienega and Santa Monica. The Elektra annex offices were on La Cienega, but also at the corner of La Cienega and Santa Monica. The annex offices were in the building north of the Clear Thoughts/Light building, so between it and the Doors office? Yes, I would certainly have heard about any Jimscapades the next day, but as I said, Jim was as meek as meek can be. He didn't want to offend anyone at Elektra or WEA. We were about to start working LA Woman, apart from anything else!



I've always been mystified by that legend. To do that, she would, as you say, have to have driven the car up those 'steps.' At which point she would likely have broken her front axles. The only woman I heard about who drove a car through a storefront in the area was Suzy Jane Hokum, who drove her VW through the karate studio next to the Troubadour, after a row with b.f. Douglas Dillard. That really happened. In about 1972, I believe.



It was a non-event that party. I don't think Jim stayed very long either - maybe a couple of hours or so,? He obviously called Babe and others, to tell them to come over and join him. After a while he was pursued by someone he didn't want to talk with at the time, and left soon thereafter to go to more interesting places, I imagine. He wasn't about to go ape-shit in a building full of WEA sales executives, and the Elektra staff, most of whom he liked. Jac would have had no compunction about calling the police either, if Jim had acted up.

He had expressed that he thought perhaps the Elektra executives were pissed at him about Miami, which in fact I don't believe they were by that time. If ever. He might have had some trepidation about interacting with Bruce Harris, who was close to PK, but if anything was said there, I wouldn't know.

"Supposedly" being the operative word. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, she would no more have aborted Jim's baby than she would have flown to the moon - on a broomstick, presumably. This would have been her one sure way to continue a connnection with him, regardless of whether he was interested at the time or not. But it wasn't his baby - those in a position to know a bit more about such things claim it was in fact David Walley's child. I wouldn't know, but I do know that if she had borne the child, Jim would have asked for a paternity test for sure.

Of course PK was seeing other people. David Walley for one. She and David continued to be close friends until his recent death, btw. No, she is not married and has no children, preferring to live in the memory of Morrison, like a latter-day Miss Havisham.

You know what. I was thinking about that the other day, I think its pretty cool, that we get to be on our computers and talk about something that we all like and have in common with. I can't have the same discussions and talk about my passion for The Doors with the people around me, I don't know any other fans like me, I do have a few friends that likes The Doors but they don't have the same interest and they don't research/analyze.

And on topic, I've never read Break on through. I think its getting real old to read bios written by people who did not know the band members and I think I'm sick and tired about the myths out there. I see Jim and the other boys as regular people.

Like you mentioned. Stories about nothing doesn't sell books

Break On Through isn't bad, but they could have used a fact-checker. Another failing is Riordan's passion for Kenneally's hearsay about this 'wedding.' However, he does quote her as saying that she took it seriously and he most definitely did not. For a contract to exist, you have to have a meeting of the minds, as they say, and they most definitely did not.

Jim did enough legitimately crazy things that it's not necessary to make things up. I got a huge laugh out of the 'swank executive offices' at the new building. Er - not really. Just ordinary rooms. The front hall was quite nice, with a Spanish-Moroccan influence. At one point there was discussion of a fountain, but I think we put the kibosh on that, as it would have been too noisy to hear the incoming phone calls. I got to design my own switchboard area. Black glass and distressed Mexican wood. Looked very nice. When Geffen arrived, they then put the upper floor in, with a presidential office finally. That was quite fancy, but was mostly paid for by the Eagles!

Someone at the party? Poor Jim. I guess he had to put up with stuff like that quite a bit.

Although I'm cringing at yet another discussion about PK, I just want to say that I completely agree with you Sally. There's _no_ way that woman ever would have gotten rid of Jim Morrison's baby since a child by him would've given her the 'hold' on him that she wanted. As obsessed as she is even today, I don't believe for even a second that the baby she aborted was his. It's actually quite sad that PK and others just like her are so deluded that even 40 years later, they're still trying to make themselves more important than they ever really were.

Bingo.

Seems like there was more of it during those last months in Los Angeles. These extra-curricular dalliances which caused him more aggravation than he had bargained for seem designed to get Pam's attention. At the time, she was off with Le Comte, but the international music biz was a pretty small circle in those days, and I'm sure she had her informants. Besides that, she had an uncanny knack of picking up on what he was doing.

I'd like to preface this by saying I have no personal beef with Ms. Kenneally. I've never been mentioned in any of her writings, except possibly as a Doorzoid and a Pamhead, but this is so inclusive, I have no idea to whom she specifically refers. I can make an educated guess though.

She excuses herself by saying she was not emotionally equipped to deal with a child. Don't know why not, if it was the heir to the Morrison throne. She had family who could have helped - she was capable of making a living, obviously, and if she had one iota of feeling for anyone but herself, she should have gone through with the birth. It isn't like she was a teenage girl in trouble.

Being a witch and a parent isn't like "Bewitched," and PK was not a friendly witch - she was all about the drama. What I get from her comments is that she was, and likely still is, very self-centered.

I can see from various photos, videos and anecdotes, that Jim liked children quite a bit, and vice versa.

I wonder why Pam never got pregnant? That would have been the one thing that could have anchored their relationship.

Perhaps Pam knew that neither her or Jim was ready to take on the responsibility of having children. I don't think she needed to find something to use to hang onto him.. she had him. He loved her. Children, perhaps, would've come in time.

I also get the feeling from various photos and stories that Jim liked children. Danny Sugerman said he would've made a great father. Danny would've as well. He always wanted a son.

It's kind of funny. I think Morrison had John, Ray & Robby so on edge, on the edge that children were the last things on their minds. Notice none of them had children until after Jim died.

lol... in addition to making John, Ray, and Robby anxiety-ridden.... are you trying to say that Morrison may have somehow have managed to lower their sperm count as well?

HAHAHAHAHA.

My take is, for Pam having a child at that time was not on her number 1 priority list, I am sure she had a heavy heroin addiction, Jim was just getting off from his contract with Electra, they were off to Paris and they were going to take it easy for a while.

I am sure in time they would have traveled a bit and then eventually come back to L.A. don’t forget that they were regular people trying living in irregular circumstances and moving to Paris was starting fresh and getting away from all the madness. But in life unfortunately, you cannot escape your problems, they always follow you.

Jim actually had a solo contract with Elektra, if you recall. Jac had signed him for spoken word. He was also planning on doing a movie with Fred Myrow, and I assume Elektra would have gotten the score for that, as Fred was constantly hanging around the Elektra offices in those days.

I don't think Jim would have returned to the States until the appeal was heard and his conviction overturned, which it most certainly would have been. He didn't want to take any chances with the legal system at that point. Btw, a bit OT, in Break on Through, Vince Treanor says that Jim was scared of going to jail. Tony Funches unequivocally denies it.

Pam didn't have a 'heavy' heroin addiction. She was not mainlining, she was snorting. You can see how messed up she was getting in Paris, by looking at some of her photos from there, but she's not nodding. This was her circumstance until the day she died, of a rare injection. It was well known she didn't have the ability to use a syringe, and needed help with that. In the end, whoever helped her, killed her. Ironic, as she had just inherited the money and, according to friends, was doing a bit better emotionally.

Right, but his 7 albums contract with the Doors was completed, I realize that Pam was probably not mainlining and she was most likely snorting, but the fact remained that she had an addiction, she was not a stupid girl, I don't think she would have wanted to raise a kid in the situation they were in at the time.

That's my point. If she had become pregnant, it might have changed their relationship completely. Might. The truth of it is they were both addicts - Jim to alcohol and Pam to heroin and probably downers.

Jim in particular wanted to get away from the "city of night," that LA had become to him and I think was very motivated to change his ways when he first got to Paris. Pam less so. They still continued to move in separate circles of friends, as they did in LA.

I know Jim loved kids its easy to see. I sure with time he would have wanted to have kids.

I agree.

Jim loved kids?

I just read in the book - I hadn't bothered to read it much, sorry, not much of a doors fan - that Pam said to Patricia, "You should have kept the kid. He never would have visited, but still". Then, Jim slept with Patricia. Pam woke up the next morning and saw them naked together. It was her birthday.

Still, Jim did give Chris Bangs some trust fund, eventually reunited with him, and they have worked together for sometime.


Jim is definitely not a role model for a dad, however. Not a family guy.

Drugs, drinking, screwing around... just because one believes one can do anything and not have condemnation for it... bad role model.


No offense.

dont really get your point here.

just because someone doesn't want to be a parent and in all probability wouldn't be very fit to be one doesn't mean they automatically hate kids. thats why myspace gives the option "Love kids, but not for me"

...

I love monkeys. Keep em in the zoo. I don't want to have to feed them and deal with them.

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Kids are different. I love my kids, as a loving Father. It is a life. I feel for people who see kids as somesort of pretty toys, "Better seen and not heard".

Really. I do.


Easy to love some pretty girl from a distance. Get to know her and deal with her hangups -- that is where love gets tough.


It hurts to raise kids. Really does. Hurts a lot.


Jim's a good guy by my book. Really he is. Loving father, yes. Good father, no.

Have kids someday. You will see what I mean.


Kids aren't things... they are people.

I can answer the questions wonder why Pamela herself never got pregnant.

According to Pamela's autopsy report, in her body they found, and I quote, "The thread of a contraceptive".

Back in 2006 Chris Bangs cleared up the story of being Jim's son in a post to the Official Doors Message Board. Unfortunately a year later on July 17 2007 a website known as the "Free Press" published the rumor in an article titled, "The Secret Life of Daddy, Jim Morrison. The Chris Bangs is Jim Morrisons son story is just part of the Jim Morrison myth.



From The Doors "Official" Forum - Lizard Lounge

Subject : Jim Morrison's "son" Chris Bangs


January 6 2006:

Chris Bangs Today, 08:58 AM Post #66

Greetings all, this is Chris Bangs.

I was made aware of this thread by a friend today. I am not really sure how to react and it is with caution that I respond at all. In light of the recent tragic losses that The Doors, their family and friends have suffered. It amazes and disappoints me that we are dealing with this type of issue.

Let's get some things cleared up.

I have NEVER claimed to be related to Jim Morrison.

My mother and father were married 9 months 3 weeks and 2 days before I was born.

My mother never stepped foot in Florida until well after I was born.

Jason D Williams never spoke with anyone telling them anything about a relationship between ANYONE and Jim Morrison.

Jason Hughes never received a call asking him about a relationship between ANYONE and Jim Morrison.

This isn't funny, cute, or profitable for anyone and can only lead to grief and misguided memories.

Anyone would be crazy to want to be falsely associated with The Doors, it can only cause problems.

Lisa Marie Presley isn't topping the charts and she is the real deal.

I have and will always be a Doors Fan. Please out of respect for The Doors and me as a fellow human being and Doors fan, don't humor this idea or respond to it wherever it may turn up. Delete it if you can.

The more you discuss it the more real it can become in the minds of some.

This whole thing is ridiculous and the entire thread should be deleted immediately.

This can get out of hand and cause much undeserved attention to me and my family as well as hurt my credibility.

Please do not humor these ideas and delete this thread.

If you cannot delete the thread, then delete your posts.

Thanking you in advance,

Chris Bangs

http://messageboard.thedoors.com/index.php...28410&st=60

Lately I have been getting forgetfull. It's no joke and it's not at all funny. There was a time not too long ago I could tell you exactly where to find this quote or that of JDM's in which book and lots of trivia. Somebody help me out here please? Who is Chris Bangs?

In 2007, a website known as The Free Press Release posted an article about the Chris Bangs story. You can read the article here:

THE SECRET LIFE OF DADDY, JIM MORRISON
By: JH Press
Free Press Release
July 17 2007
http://www.free-press-release.com/news/200...1184689431.html

There was a topic started on the Lizard Lounge in January of 2006 by a person using the ID name of joeschriber asking for information about a man named Chris Bangs being Jim Morrison's biological son. The thread known as, "Jim Morrison's "other" son?, Did Jim Morrison have another son now named Chris Bangs? gained lots of attention.

A person going by the name of Jon Burrows replied and claimed that the rumor started in 1992. The information Jon Burrows provided mirrors that of the Free Press Release article.

Chris Bangs himself replied to the LL thread and debunked the rumor as false. As you know, the Lizard Lounge has weathered several cleanings and along with those cleanings a great majority of the postings disappeared forever. The Chris Bang topic was one of those deleted.

I don't know how the Chris Bangs rumor initally got started or who was the first person to make the claim other than the fact that it was a topic of discussion on LL and Ray Manzarek's Message Board back in 2006. The thread still exists on Manzarek's board http://manzarek.thedoors.com/index.php?showtopic=668

I hope the limited information I have provided helps to answer your question in some small way.

What a shame, I was hoping Cliff would have a big brother.