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AnnieM
Apologies if this has already been posted:

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseact...logId=490327788

Just in time to come out before Tom's documentary... and this one is sold directly to the "fans." Or should I say the widder's disciples.



Christie
I thought you were talking about Ana but you meant the other wacko!
MeagerFood521
QUOTE (Christie @ May 31 2009, 02:33 AM) *
I thought you were talking about Ana but you meant the other wacko!



Christie.........omg/has it been that long since we 'saw' Ana??? I totally forgot about her.
Does PK need a life or what???? Jacky
jym
She always comes back. laugh.gif
countless_zero
QUOTE (AnnieM @ May 30 2009, 02:07 PM) *
Apologies if this has already been posted:

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseact...logId=490327788

Just in time to come out before Tom's documentary... and this one is sold directly to the "fans." Or should I say the widder's disciples.


Having had two "witch" gfs myself, I think she is beautiful.

Encuentro
Is anybody planning on buying this documentary which is NOT about her but about The Doors? Her interview segment in the documentary is relatively small from what I understand. Other people interviewed for this documentary are Richard Goldstein who wrote for The Village Voice and Billy James who signed The Doors to Columbia Records and later worked for Elektra Records. I'm not sure why one person's relatively minor contribution is the focus of the discussion. She has been given way too much power. I'm curious to know why the word "Documentary" was put in quotes for the title of this thread. One person who Doors fans generally dislike is interviewed for the documentary, and it completely destroys the legitimacy of the documentary? Will anybody give it a chance?
mewsical
QUOTE (Encuentro @ Jul 13 2009, 10:59 AM) *
Is anybody planning on buying this documentary which is NOT about her but about The Doors? Her interview segment in the documentary is relatively small from what I understand. Other people interviewed for this documentary are Richard Goldstein who wrote for The Village Voice and Billy James who signed The Doors to Columbia Records and later worked for Elektra Records. I'm not sure why one person's relatively minor contribution is the focus of the discussion. She has been given way too much power. I'm curious to know why the word "Documentary" was put in quotes for the title of this thread. One person who Doors fans generally dislike is interviewed for the documentary, and it completely destroys the legitimacy of the documentary? Will anybody give it a chance?


Billy is an old friend of mine. He doesn't care for the project and suggests that nobody bother with it. And he was interviewed extensively.
Encuentro
QUOTE (mewsical @ Jul 13 2009, 06:09 PM) *
Billy is an old friend of mine. He doesn't care for the project and suggests that nobody bother with it. And he was interviewed extensively.

Ok. Maybe I'll skip it. However, if I see it in stores, I may be compelled to buy it. Hopefully, it won't make it to stores.
mewsical
QUOTE (Encuentro @ Jul 13 2009, 11:26 AM) *
Ok. Maybe I'll skip it. However, if I see it in stores, I may be compelled to buy it. Hopefully, it won't make it to stores.


Billy said there is very little of our friend - she is heard stating unequivocally that the Doors were not a blues band, while Back Door Man plays. I think J. Riordan is involved as well - he bought our friend into the project.
Encuentro
QUOTE (mewsical @ Jul 13 2009, 07:30 PM) *
Billy said there is very little of our friend - she is heard stating unequivocally that the Doors were not a blues band, while Back Door Man plays. I think J. Riordan is involved as well - he bought our friend into the project.

Are they friends? I like Break On Through. It had a few inaccuracies, but I think that it's the best of the major biographies.

The question of whether or not they were a blues band is interesting. Although most of the covers that they did were blues, they really didn't break out any original blues until Morrison Hotel.
mewsical
QUOTE (Encuentro @ Jul 13 2009, 12:13 PM) *
Are they friends? I like Break On Through. It had a few inaccuracies, but I think that it's the best of the major biographies.

The question of whether or not they were a blues band is interesting. Although most of the covers that they did were blues, they really didn't break out any original blues until Morrison Hotel.


I think Riordan is friendly with her. That destroys any credibility that the book may have. I've gotten some of it read, but I keep wondering where they got all this information from. They don't quote any sources.

I don't think of the Doors as a blues band particularly, but Jim seemed to like the blues a bit. It's an easy form of music to play and perform if you're half-way good. The most distinctive thing about the Doors musically was that hurdy-gurdy organ sound of Ray's and Jim's odd baritone - very unique.
Encuentro
QUOTE (mewsical @ Jul 13 2009, 07:49 PM) *
I think Riordan is friendly with her. That destroys any credibility that the book may have. I've gotten some of it read, but I keep wondering where they got all this information from. They don't quote any sources.

I don't think of the Doors as a blues band particularly, but Jim seemed to like the blues a bit. It's an easy form of music to play and perform if you're half-way good. The most distinctive thing about the Doors musically was that hurdy-gurdy organ sound of Ray's and Jim's odd baritone - very unique.

There is a bibliography at the back of the book. I'm not sure how many new interviews were conducted if any. There is an anonymous source quoted at the end of the book that begins the heroin theory, then Diane Gardiner is quoted supporting the claims of the anonymous source. I checked the bibliography for citations for new interviews and didn't see any, so I don't know where these interviews came from, if they were conducted by the writers or if they were taken from another source.
mewsical
QUOTE (Encuentro @ Jul 13 2009, 01:09 PM) *
There is a bibliography at the back of the book. I'm not sure how many new interviews were conducted if any. There is an anonymous source quoted at the end of the book that begins the heroin theory, then Diane Gardiner is quoted supporting the claims of the anonymous source. I checked the bibliography for citations for new interviews and didn't see any, so I don't know where these interviews came from, if they were conducted by the writers or if they were taken from another source.


I'll have to have a look at the bibliography. Ironic that Diane Gardiner should be quoted about heroin.
Encuentro
QUOTE (mewsical @ Jul 13 2009, 08:28 PM) *
I'll have to have a look at the bibliography. Ironic that Diane Gardiner should be quoted about heroin.

According to the book, Pam confided in her about what really happened. I'm not saying I believe the theory. That is what is written in the book.
mewsical
QUOTE (Encuentro @ Jul 13 2009, 02:09 PM) *
According to the book, Pam confided in her about what really happened. I'm not saying I believe the theory. That is what is written in the book.


Diane was the last person to see Pam alive.
Sacha
Poor little creature...she will never give up. E-V-E-R!! lol

What I can't wait to see is the "real" doco by Tom. Yes I have to agree she is given way too much power.

-S
DeadAsADoorNail
I'll wait for the bootleg. wink.gif
AnnieM
QUOTE (mewsical @ Jul 13 2009, 11:09 AM) *
Billy is an old friend of mine. He doesn't care for the project and suggests that nobody bother with it. And he was interviewed extensively.

Thanks, Mewsical, that was my impression, too. Anything PK has her stamp on is generally inaccurate. Her entire relationship was, shall we say, "inaccurately portrayed." (And yes, I put that in quotes.)

I'll wait for Tom's documentary (and no, I didn't put it in quotes).
Encuentro
QUOTE (AnnieM @ Jul 19 2009, 05:27 AM) *
Thanks, Mewsical, that was my impression, too. Anything PK has her stamp on is generally inaccurate. Her entire relationship was, shall we say, "inaccurately portrayed." (And yes, I put that in quotes.)

I'll wait for Tom's documentary (and no, I didn't put it in quotes).

It's so difficult to get anyway. It's not available in any stores that I checked, and Amazon.com says that it usually ships in 1 to 2 months. What kind of DVD takes 1 to 2 months to ship? It seems like an amature project to me.
GG Morrison
Well, if our curiosity gets the best of us, let's all pitch in and buy a bootleg and pass it around amongst ourselves! laugh.gif
MeagerFood521
QUOTE (Encuentro @ Jul 13 2009, 07:13 PM) *
Are they friends? I like Break On Through. It had a few inaccuracies, but I think that it's the best of the major biographies.

The question of whether or not they were a blues band is interesting. Although most of the covers that they did were blues, they really didn't break out any original blues until Morrison Hotel.



E. Myself I thought John's Rider's on the Storm was the best. Break on Thru was very good, but it got a little too technical for me. John's book is a true story, no embellishments, no ulterior motive unlike other major bios. I could mention. j
Encuentro
QUOTE (MeagerFood521 @ Jul 21 2009, 08:09 PM) *
E. Myself I thought John's Rider's on the Storm was the best. Break on Thru was very good, but it got a little too technical for me. John's book is a true story, no embellishments, no ulterior motive unlike other major bios. I could mention. j

I love John's book too! I felt like I was there when I was reading it. The major biographies I was referring to are books that tell Jim's life story from beginning to end. There are really only three major Jim Morrison biographies, and they are No One Here Gets Out Alive, Break On Through: The Life and Death of Jim Morrison and Jim Morrison: Life, Death, Legend. The last one is nothing more than a cut and paste job put together from other books. Then again, so was Break On Through, although it was done in a very professional manner. The sources are provided in a very lengthy bibliography at the back of the book. John's book is his memoir. It's his story told from his point of view.
Sacha
I read NOHGOA 13 years ago, to be honest I don’t remember much so I decided to go out and buy the book since the one I had 13 years ago was bought used and lets just say there a lot of mileage.

Anyways.

I read Ray’s book here’s my review:

I loved how he explained how things were in his childhood and how he started playing piano. My favourite part was the beginning of the book, I cried for the 1st 20 pages. Overall it was a great read. Sometimes he would go on and on about certain things some parts are way too detailed. I highly recommend to any Doors fans.

Here’s my John review:

I really loved the letter he wrote to Jim through out the book, I don’t want to spill the beans but its great, it really does come from the heart. You can also read John’s personal evolution as a human being, I also liked that he talked about his marriages and what was happening in his personal life when The Doors were being “made” it explains a whole lot. Some said that John was a bit of a whiner, but seriously it’s hard to be a rockstar. tongue.gif Of course I recommend to any Doors fans.

I sorta read Angels Dance and Angels die. Maybe 3/4 of the book, not for its accuracies but I was more curious to see she had to say about Pamela. I am positive that she did extensive research but really only Pam and Jim could write about their love story.

So far I’ve only read a few pages of NOHGOA and I think its great. Danny did know Jim and the gang he was present in flesh and he did follow Jim around like a little puppy.

I hope Robby will write something in his own words someday.
MeagerFood521
QUOTE (Sacha @ Jul 23 2009, 09:11 PM) *
I read NOHGOA 13 years ago, to be honest I don't remember much so I decided to go out and buy the book since the one I had 13 years ago was bought used and lets just say there a lot of mileage.

Anyways.

I read Ray's book here's my review:

I loved how he explained how things were in his childhood and how he started playing piano. My favourite part was the beginning of the book, I cried for the 1st 20 pages. Overall it was a great read. Sometimes he would go on and on about certain things some parts are way too detailed. I highly recommend to any Doors fans.

Here's my John review:

I really loved the letter he wrote to Jim through out the book, I don't want to spill the beans but its great, it really does come from the heart. You can also read John's personal evolution as a human being, I also liked that he talked about his marriages and what was happening in his personal life when The Doors were being "made" it explains a whole lot. Some said that John was a bit of a whiner, but seriously it's hard to be a rockstar. tongue.gif Of course I recommend to any Doors fans.

I sorta read Angels Dance and Angels die. Maybe 3/4 of the book, not for its accuracies but I was more curious to see she had to say about Pamela. I am positive that she did extensive research but really only Pam and Jim could write about their love story.

So far I've only read a few pages of NOHGOA and I think its great. Danny did know Jim and the gang he was present in flesh and he did follow Jim around like a little puppy.

I hope Robby will write something in his own words someday.


S. I hope he does, but won't hold my breath! j
Sacha
Well I read an article and I he said something like he's been waiting for everyone to die (I'm sure he meant it as a joke).

Anyways at least Robby paints smile.gif and its pretty
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