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thevalhalla

Hey people. I am a big fan of the Doors...and I cannot express how much of a fan I am.

I also posted this in the ask Densmore a question forum but since it seems some of you personally knew Jim (What a fucking honour. I am truly jealous), was Jim a fan of smoking the good stuff? I'm telling you, getting stoned and pumping the Doors makes you really appreciate it. Are there are pot related pictures of Jim? Did he smoke on a regular basis?

I signed up on the doors forum too but my account hasn't been validated yet..it's been 2 weeks!!

Anyway, thank you peeps.
thevalhalla
can anyone reply?
mojosmoothy
QUOTE (thevalhalla @ Mar 23 2009, 07:30 AM) *
can anyone reply?

Morrison smoked pot early on but moved away from it as he got older as he did w/LSD.Alchohol was his drug of choice.I don't represent this forum but I do believe this to be the truth.
thevalhalla

I bet you haven't done drugs in your life. Weed is like a side order or a drink with the meal you know? You can smoke while you're doing other drugs aswell.
mojosmoothy
QUOTE (thevalhalla @ Mar 23 2009, 08:24 AM) *
I bet you haven't done drugs in your life. Weed is like a side order or a drink with the meal you know? You can smoke while you're doing other drugs aswell.

Whatever man,this isn't about me.If you don't like the answer to your question too bad.
gotothelight
QUOTE (thevalhalla @ Mar 23 2009, 10:30 AM) *
can anyone reply?



Welcome to the board.

By all accounts, it seems that Morrison didn't really like smoking pot. He smoked it early on, and then (as Mojosmoothy posted).. alcohol became his drug of choice.
elshaman
im pretty sure he did those ucla times
MeagerFood521
Welcome to our forum.
Myself, I have never met Jim or any of the boys, however I did see them in concert twice here in Philadelphia ('68 and '70) and just recently saw John with his new band
Tribal Jazz about 10 minutes outside Philadelphia.
I would think in the timeframe you mentioned just about every young person was trying pot/I know I was.
If you stick around in our forum you will meet people who did know Jim.....members (very well studied) with different takes on his short life.....to make a long story short/
it is a real education in Doors history! Jacky
PTLWP
Jim Morrison was loads more about things than just drugs and alcohol. They weren't the important parts of what Jim Morrison was about. There is a lot of depth to the person but as a young man, he did his share of experimenting with hallucinogens.

That being said, I hope that you aren't here to go on ragging about the drug scene. There is loads more to life than that and drugs and alcohol abuse were what led Jim Morrison down the road to death at the age of 27, IMO. Were it not for that, he'd be alive and well and jamming with his bandmates, directing movies, or doing whatever it was that he'd want to be doing in the later years of his life, which never transpired, due to his lack of good health and pushing all the limits over the edge.

Cheers.
mewsical
QUOTE (PTLWP @ Mar 28 2009, 02:44 PM) *
Jim Morrison was loads more about things than just drugs and alcohol. They weren't the important parts of what Jim Morrison was about. There is a lot of depth to the person but as a young man, he did his share of experimenting with hallucinogens.

That being said, I hope that you aren't here to go on ragging about the drug scene. There is loads more to life than that and drugs and alcohol abuse were what led Jim Morrison down the road to death at the age of 27, IMO. Were it not for that, he'd be alive and well and jamming with his bandmates, directing movies, or doing whatever it was that he'd want to be doing in the later years of his life, which never transpired, due to his lack of good health and pushing all the limits over the edge.

Cheers.


Exactly.
thevalhalla
QUOTE (mewsical @ Mar 28 2009, 01:59 PM) *
Exactly.


No. I disagree. It was about drugs and alcohol. Face it. Either you escape into a fucking cave or a forest and disconnect to test the bounds of reality or you use help/drugs.

I just finished reading No one here gets out alive and my pot question was answered here. Seems like our man Jimmy used to smoke alot of pot till that Miami incident where he went to Jamaica for vactions and tried some weed there and got a panic attack. It was months before Jim smoked pot again, but he did continue smoking but alot lesser then he used to. From smoking ounces with friends, he was down to a toke here a toke there. He also took more than 250 LSD hits. He did cocaine, heroin and mesculine. So please don't tell me it wasn't about the drugs. It was the drugs.

Come on.
HWY4371
QUOTE (thevalhalla @ Mar 22 2009, 01:24 PM) *
since it seems some of you personally knew Jim


there isn't noone here and on LL that knew morrison.
MeagerFood521
QUOTE (HWY4371 @ Mar 29 2009, 06:21 PM) *
there isn't noone here and on LL that knew morrison.



Yes there are....Jacky
HWY4371
..ah..yes you are right.., maybe you talk about john and maybe leon.
mewsical
QUOTE (thevalhalla @ Mar 28 2009, 11:58 PM) *
No. I disagree. It was about drugs and alcohol. Face it. Either you escape into a fucking cave or a forest and disconnect to test the bounds of reality or you use help/drugs.

I just finished reading No one here gets out alive and my pot question was answered here. Seems like our man Jimmy used to smoke alot of pot till that Miami incident where he went to Jamaica for vactions and tried some weed there and got a panic attack. It was months before Jim smoked pot again, but he did continue smoking but alot lesser then he used to. From smoking ounces with friends, he was down to a toke here a toke there. He also took more than 250 LSD hits. He did cocaine, heroin and mesculine. So please don't tell me it wasn't about the drugs. It was the drugs.

Come on.


That book is not exactly a barrel of facts, my friend. If you do drugs, that's up to you. However, constantly talking about drugs is a bit boring, don't you think?

I knew Jim and there was a lot more to him than drugs. Salli knew Jim, as did Janet over on the LL. I also know people who knew Jim well and worked with him, as do they.

I suggest you read this long interview with Jim's good friend Frank Lisciandro. It will give you a better perspective than the book by Hopkins. The server appears to be down at the moment but hopefully will be back up soon. This interview is really required reading, imo. It's very long.

http://www.lisciandrophotos.com/groups/interview.html

And there's also this short interview Frank gave after publishing his book. Quite informative in its way and definitely notes that the Hopkins book is riddled with inaccuracies.

http://www.famousinterview.ca/interviews/f..._lisciandro.htm


mewsical
QUOTE (HWY4371 @ Mar 29 2009, 12:29 PM) *
..ah..yes you are right.., maybe you talk about john and maybe leon.


Let alone Salli and Janet and me. Salli did the interview for Circus and then became Jim's friend, Janet met him through Patricia Kennealy and then she and Jim became friends, and I knew him when I worked at Elektra, having met him prior to that.
PTLWP
Well, if it's the drug scene that you are so much interested in, may I suggest you check out "High Times". You are just wasting your time and our time because this isn't a drug website, regardless of what the Doors did over 40 years ago. There isn't any information worth noting about it as drug use back then were just the times they were in. Things aren't the same today. You should get your act together and stop wasting your time worrying about what the Doors did and what they did.

Life a life for yourself and get your own life together. Alcohol addiction did more to harm Morrison's health than anything else he did.
moredensmore
dont all musicians/artists??
elshaman
most of
Salli
QUOTE (moredensmore @ Mar 30 2009, 08:10 PM) *
dont all musicians/artists??



Not necessarily. I knew some artists and musicians who did not do drugs. They didn't want to damage the gift of talent they had.
thevalhalla

They must've been crap artists wink.gif
HWY4371
QUOTE (MeagerFood521 @ Mar 28 2009, 11:48 AM) *
I did see them in concert twice here in Philadelphia ('68 and '70)


if you saw them in 68 and 70, how wore morrison in both show?
mewsical
QUOTE (HWY4371 @ Apr 11 2009, 04:49 PM) *
if you saw them in 68 and 70, how wore morrison in both show?


Good question. Did you notice any difference in his performance from 68 to 70?
HWY4371
QUOTE (mewsical @ Apr 11 2009, 05:38 PM) *
Good question. Did you notice any difference in his performance from 68 to 70?


yes, there are. i wan't known what they played or something like that simply how morrison wore for my research all here.

if i'm not wrong you wrote that you saw the doors at roundhouse,right? when sept 6 or 7? both show had a 1 and second show or sept 7 show hadn't a second show. how morrison wore during show that you saw?

QUOTE (mewsical @ Apr 11 2009, 05:38 PM) *
I 'met' him in October 1969 at Thee Experience and the last time I saw him in March 1971.


when did you meet morrison in october'69 what wore morrison? and beard or not?

if i'm not wrong you wrote on LL that morrison was unbeard in that elektra feast on march 71, but morrison was beard during that time.
mojosmoothy
QUOTE (HWY4371 @ Apr 12 2009, 06:17 AM) *
yes, there are. i wan't known what they played or something like that simply how morrison wore for my research all here.

if i'm not wrong you wrote that you saw the doors at roundhouse,right? when sept 6 or 7? both show had a 1 and second show or sept 7 show hadn't a second show. how morrison wore during show that you saw?



when did you meet morrison in october'69 what wore morrison? and beard or not?

if i'm not wrong you wrote on LL that morrison was unbeard in that elektra feast on march 71, but morrison was beard during that time.

Morrison beard and unbeard every few days,grew russian czar beard fast,unbeard faster
mewsical
QUOTE (HWY4371 @ Apr 12 2009, 06:17 AM) *
yes, there are. i wan't known what they played or something like that simply how morrison wore for my research all here.

if i'm not wrong you wrote that you saw the doors at roundhouse,right? when sept 6 or 7? both show had a 1 and second show or sept 7 show hadn't a second show. how morrison wore during show that you saw?



when did you meet morrison in october'69 what wore morrison? and beard or not?

if i'm not wrong you wrote on LL that morrison was unbeard in that elektra feast on march 71, but morrison was beard during that time.


When I first 'met' Jim in September 1969 he was bearded. I think he had the beard in March 1971 as well. I know he was dressed all in black. Steve Harris was all in black, too, as was Bruce Harris.

I did see the Doors at the Roundhouse apparently. My friend Angela remembers it better than I do. She just verified we did go see them. Darned if I remember much of it. It was very crowded, that I do know. I'm not good at crowds, so more than likely I just took off. There was a delay in starting the show, which has been well-documented by Clive Selwood, and took Jac Holzman pulling rank to get things sorted out, and the show on the road.
MeagerFood521
QUOTE (HWY4371 @ Apr 12 2009, 12:49 AM) *
if you saw them in 68 and 70, how wore morrison in both show?



I believe it was late summer of 1968 first time I saw the Doors. I went with 2 girls I worked with.....they told me 'Jack you got come with us to this concert tonite and see this guy'. Other than LMF I knew nothing about the Doors.
We were seated up in the balcony so my view of the band was not good and they sounded allright. I had to leave before the show was over and as I was outside the concert hall the Doors music had me glued to the cement. It was fresh, fresher than anything I ever heard before. It had a haunting quality that made me want more....
I swear when I turned around it lit up the entire Philadelphia skyline. It was at that time I became a Doors fan. BTW nothing untoward happened during this show.

May 1, 1970
This time I was about 15' from the stage. I was pretty well familiar with all of their tunes by this time (not so much their history) and it was a great, great show.
Jim and the boys seemed really glad to be playing Philadelphia and gave it all they had. When Jim played on the left side of the stage I could see him clearly.
Stupid me, I could have saved my ticket stubs or program or something but I did not.
Jim was sober and in complete control of himself and the audience.


Jacky
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