That makes sense to me. For me personally, I have not yet lived.

This reminds me of some writings by Henry David Thoreau.

Where I Lived, and What I Lived for
From Walden, Chapter 2 paragraph 16


I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived. I did not wish to live what was not life, living is so dear; nor did I wish to practise resignation, unless it was quite necessary. I wanted to live deep and suck out all the marrow of life, to live so sturdily and Spartan-like as to put to rout all that was not life, to cut a broad swath and shave close, to drive life into a corner, and reduce it to its lowest terms, and, if it proved to be mean, why then to get the whole and genuine meanness of it, and publish its meanness to the world; or if it were sublime, to know it by experience, and be able to give a true account of it in my next excursion. For most men, it appears to me, are in a strange uncertainty about it, whether it is of the devil or of God, and have somewhat hastily concluded that it is the chief end of man here to "glorify God and enjoy him forever."

Glad to see another Thoreau fan. I was reading Thoreau as a freshman in high school, what kind of sick person reads A Week on the Concord and Merrimack Rivers at age 13?

Thumbs up to ya, man.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but all this "living in the woods," was in the meantime a scant half-mile from the nearest tavern, where Mr. Thoreau would take himself nearly every night for human companionship and conversation.

I can't read German, but below is a link to an article about a German tv show where Sam Bernett was interviewed and supposedly said he did _not_ see the body in the bathroom stall at the R&R Circus.. and didn't know if it was Jim Morrison or not. Hmmm.... kind of contradicts what he's been saying to sell his book, doesn't it...?

(Can anyone translate the article from the link? Thanks.)

HERE

I threw it into Babelfish and this was the result (some of it is quite funny). I hope Dark Star can do a better job!

Only Jim Morrison from a mood the studio, in the The Doors straight its last album ' LA Woman ' left few months before its death suddenly produced and flew to Paris. With its friend Pamela Courson it referred the dwelling of a friend there in the Rue Beautrellis. Morrison, a strong alcoholic, spent its time to get drunk and to touch aimlessly by those Paris lanes. It was to be found frequently in bars and discotheques and wrote poems over alcohol and depressions. Officially its death was determined by feuerwehrmaennern, who were called into its dwelling. Pamela to have stated, the evening with it to have at home spent and it unconscious then in the bath tub to have found. Other witnesses however stated, Morrison in that evening in a night club the ' Rock'n'roll circus ' to have seen. In addition these witnesses indicate, Morrison was found late at the night without consciousness on the man toilet and was not removed up to now from identified persons from there. If Pamelas is true version, as it can be then that a DJ announced Morrisons death at this night, before possibly somebody else knew answer where spent Jim Morrison its last hours and as it died this documentation with PHOENIX really reconstructs Morrisons last days in Paris. Humans, who stood for it at next, the photo graph franc Lisciandro, the schlagzeuger of The Doors, John Densmore, the former manager that volume, Bill Siddons, and Pamelas nut/mother, Pearl Courson, deliver their estimate. These valuable statements light up the contradictions and mysterioesen circumstances of the ' affair Morrison ' and bring new aspects into the question, which actually happened at that night.

Seems like nothing in that article indicates that Bernett said he never saw the body... Did anyone here see the tv program who could maybe shed some light on what Bernett said? Thanks.

Let alone constantly referring to Jim as "it."

And is 'schlagzeuer' a drummer? The former manager that volume? Deliver their estimate? (Is that like an invoice? )

Aha - the "Affair Morrison." Paging Hercule Poirot!!

You gotta love Babelfish. The "translation" is probably more interesting than the article :-)

Thank U for having so much faith in me.


German is not my first language. I did live there for 3 years. Ages ago. But I do watch German movies without sub-titles and understand about 80% what their saying. Does that count? I haven't got the time this evening to translate this article but I will edit this post with a translation tomorrow. I'll give it my best effort.



"is 'schlagzeuer' a drummer?" Yes or percusisonist

"volume" = band

'deliver their estimate' I will have to put the sentence together to tell you the meaning.

EDITED TO ADD TRANSLATION Aug 16 2007

Heres the translation I came up with for the article. The one phrase I didn't understand was the use of the word PHOENIX. I think its the tv channel that the program appear on. This tv program airs this Saturday at 2:45pm and I have written to a friend in Germany to see if they get this channel and record the program for me.


The Last Days Of A Legend (2/12) Jim Morrison

Jim Morrison 3. July 1971:

James Douglas Morrison dies under mysterious circumstances during a stay in Paris - the public version of the cause of death indicate a cardiac infraction.

There was a mood in the studio where the last album, “L.A. Woman” was produced. Jim Morrison left a few months prior to his death and flew to Paris.

He lived with his friend Pamela Courson in a dwelling on Rue Beautrellis. Morrison, a strong alcoholic spent his time getting drunk and wondered aimlessly through the streets (lanes) of Paris.

He could be found frequently in bars and discotheques and wrote poems under the influence of alcohol and depression.

Officially, his death was determined by fireman (Feuerwehrmännern) who were called to the dwelling.

Pamela stated that the evening was spent at home and she had found him in the bathtub unconscious. However, other witnesses stated Morrison was seen that evening in a night club, the Rock and Roll Circus.

In addition, these witnesses indicate Morrison was found late that night unconscious in the toilets and he was removed from there by now identified persons. (Who are these people who are now identified?)

If Pamela’s version of the story is true, a DJ announced Morrison’s death on this night before someone else could answer where Jim Morrison spent his last hours.

This documentation with PHOENIX really reconstructs Morrison’s last days in Paris.

People who stood up for him the photographer, Frank Liscinadro, the drummer of The Doors, John Densmore, the former manager of the band, Bill Siddons, and Pamela’s mother, Pearl Courson have delivered their own versions of this story.

These valuable statements light up contradictions and mysterious circumstances of the “Affair Morrison” (Affäre = to have an involvement with or a scandal or affair) and brings new aspects that question which version of the story actually happened that night.

A Film By Michaelle Gagnet



Original Text

Die letzten Tage einer Legende (2/12)
Jim Morrison

3. Juli 1971: James Douglas Morrison stirbt unter mysteriösen Umständen während eines Aufenthaltes in Paris - die öffentliche Version der Todesursache lautete später Herzinfarkt.

Nur wenige Monate vor seinem Tod verließ Jim Morrison aus einer Laune heraus plötzlich das Studio, in dem The Doors gerade ihr letztes Album 'LA Woman' produzierten und flog nach Paris.

Mit seiner Freundin Pamela Courson bezog er dort die Wohnung eines Freundes in der Rue Beautrellis. Morrison, ein starker Alkoholiker, verbrachte seine Zeit damit, sich zu betrinken und ziellos durch die Pariser Gassen zu streifen. Er war häufig in Bars und Diskotheken anzutreffen und schrieb Gedichte über Alkohol und Depressionen. Offiziell wurde sein Tod von Feuerwehrmännern, die in seine Wohnung gerufen wurden, festgestellt. Pamela behauptet, den Abend mit ihm zu Hause verbracht und ihn dann bewusstlos in der Badewanne gefunden zu haben. Andere Zeugen allerdings sagten aus, Morrison an jenem Abend in einem Nachtclub, dem 'Rock’n’roll Zirkus' gesehen zu haben. Diese Zeugen geben außerdem an, Morrison sei spät in der Nacht ohne Bewusstsein auf der Männertoilette aufgefunden und von bis jetzt nicht identifizierten Personen von dort weggebracht worden.

Wenn Pamelas Version wahr ist, wie kann es dann sein, dass ein DJ in dieser Nacht Morrisons Tod verkündete, bevor irgend jemand anders Bescheid wusste Wo verbrachte Jim Morrison seine letzten Stunden und wie starb er wirklich Diese Dokumentation bei PHOENIX rekonstruiert Morrisons letzte Tage in Paris. Die Menschen, die ihm an nächsten standen, der Fotograph Frank Lisciandro, der Schlagzeuger von The Doors, John Densmore, der ehemalige Manager der Band, Bill Siddons, und Pamelas Mutter, Pearl Courson, geben ihre Einschätzung ab. Diese wertvollen Aussagen beleuchten die Widersprüche und mysteriösen Umstände der 'Affäre Morrison' und bringen neue Aspekte in die Frage, was in jener Nacht tatsächlich geschah.

Film von Michaelle Gagnet

I'm thinking deliver their estimate means something like 'tell their story' ...

I'm also thinking it would fun to post through Babelfish from now on and let everyone try to figure out what the heck we're trying to say

There are a couple people who post here whom I thought must be translating to English from their native language through Babelfish.

I made the mistake of asking if English was a poster's second language.
Is English the hardest to learn?

Is there is any reason that Jim Morrison would not try what everyone else around was using?

On D Day Canadian forces made it the farthest inland...until they were met by one of Hitlers elite panther groups and all captured were executed...and Canadians did liberate Holland....not to take anything away from the amount the Americans did...they scored the late goal in both world wars to win the game

We were discussing the liberation of Paris, I think, vis a vis why there would have been people celebrating there over the July 4 weekend, when Jim died.

France was liberated by America in WWI???....I thinks that's when they showed up for the party

Er no - Second World War in this case. But - FYI - the Americans did join the Allies in 1917 and entered Europe by arrival in Paris on July 4, under the command of General John Pershing.

yes quite right...but france wasn't liberated untill august i believe...but who's counting...And I thought it was the british....Canadians had better things to do after winning the day at Juno...