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post Sep 11 2009, 07:41 AM
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QUOTE (mewsical @ Sep 11 2009, 07:31 AM) *
That's my point. If she had become pregnant, it might have changed their relationship completely. Might. The truth of it is they were both addicts - Jim to alcohol and Pam to heroin and probably downers.

Jim in particular wanted to get away from the "city of night," that LA had become to him and I think was very motivated to change his ways when he first got to Paris. Pam less so. They still continued to move in separate circles of friends, as they did in LA.


I know Jim loved kids its easy to see. I sure with time he would have wanted to have kids.
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post Sep 11 2009, 08:01 AM
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QUOTE (Sacha @ Sep 11 2009, 08:41 AM) *
I know Jim loved kids its easy to see. I sure with time he would have wanted to have kids.


I agree.
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post Nov 5 2009, 08:32 PM
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Jim loved kids?

I just read in the book - I hadn't bothered to read it much, sorry, not much of a doors fan - that Pam said to Patricia, "You should have kept the kid. He never would have visited, but still". Then, Jim slept with Patricia. Pam woke up the next morning and saw them naked together. It was her birthday.

Still, Jim did give Chris Bangs some trust fund, eventually reunited with him, and they have worked together for sometime.


Jim is definitely not a role model for a dad, however. Not a family guy.

Drugs, drinking, screwing around... just because one believes one can do anything and not have condemnation for it... bad role model.


No offense.



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post Nov 5 2009, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE (astro.buzz @ Nov 5 2009, 08:32 PM) *
Jim loved kids?

I just read in the book - I hadn't bothered to read it much, sorry, not much of a doors fan - that Pam said to Patricia, "You should have kept the kid. He never would have visited, but still". Then, Jim slept with Patricia. Pam woke up the next morning and saw them naked together. It was her birthday.

Still, Jim did give Chris Bangs some trust fund, eventually reunited with him, and they have worked together for sometime.


Jim is definitely not a role model for a dad, however. Not a family guy.

Drugs, drinking, screwing around... just because one believes one can do anything and not have condemnation for it... bad role model.


No offense.


dont really get your point here.

just because someone doesn't want to be a parent and in all probability wouldn't be very fit to be one doesn't mean they automatically hate kids. thats why myspace gives the option "Love kids, but not for me" laugh.gif
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post Nov 5 2009, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE (NP @ Nov 5 2009, 11:46 PM) *
dont really get your point here.

just because someone doesn't want to be a parent and in all probability wouldn't be very fit to be one doesn't mean they automatically hate kids. thats why myspace gives the option "Love kids, but not for me" laugh.gif


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I love monkeys. Keep em in the zoo. I don't want to have to feed them and deal with them.

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Kids are different. I love my kids, as a loving Father. It is a life. I feel for people who see kids as somesort of pretty toys, "Better seen and not heard".

Really. I do.


Easy to love some pretty girl from a distance. Get to know her and deal with her hangups -- that is where love gets tough.


It hurts to raise kids. Really does. Hurts a lot.


Jim's a good guy by my book. Really he is. Loving father, yes. Good father, no.

Have kids someday. You will see what I mean.


Kids aren't things... they are people.

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post Jan 30 2010, 09:40 AM
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I can answer the questions wonder why Pamela herself never got pregnant.

According to Pamela's autopsy report, in her body they found, and I quote, "The thread of a contraceptive".
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post Jan 30 2010, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE (astro.buzz @ Nov 5 2009, 11:32 PM) *
Still, Jim did give Chris Bangs some trust fund, eventually reunited with him, and they have worked together for sometime.


Back in 2006 Chris Bangs cleared up the story of being Jim's son in a post to the Official Doors Message Board. Unfortunately a year later on July 17 2007 a website known as the "Free Press" published the rumor in an article titled, "The Secret Life of Daddy, Jim Morrison. The Chris Bangs is Jim Morrisons son story is just part of the Jim Morrison myth.



From The Doors "Official" Forum - Lizard Lounge

Subject : Jim Morrison's "son" Chris Bangs


January 6 2006:

Chris Bangs Today, 08:58 AM Post #66

Greetings all, this is Chris Bangs.

I was made aware of this thread by a friend today. I am not really sure how to react and it is with caution that I respond at all. In light of the recent tragic losses that The Doors, their family and friends have suffered. It amazes and disappoints me that we are dealing with this type of issue.

Let's get some things cleared up.

I have NEVER claimed to be related to Jim Morrison.

My mother and father were married 9 months 3 weeks and 2 days before I was born.

My mother never stepped foot in Florida until well after I was born.

Jason D Williams never spoke with anyone telling them anything about a relationship between ANYONE and Jim Morrison.

Jason Hughes never received a call asking him about a relationship between ANYONE and Jim Morrison.

This isn't funny, cute, or profitable for anyone and can only lead to grief and misguided memories.

Anyone would be crazy to want to be falsely associated with The Doors, it can only cause problems.

Lisa Marie Presley isn't topping the charts and she is the real deal.

I have and will always be a Doors Fan. Please out of respect for The Doors and me as a fellow human being and Doors fan, don't humor this idea or respond to it wherever it may turn up. Delete it if you can.

The more you discuss it the more real it can become in the minds of some.

This whole thing is ridiculous and the entire thread should be deleted immediately.

This can get out of hand and cause much undeserved attention to me and my family as well as hurt my credibility.

Please do not humor these ideas and delete this thread.

If you cannot delete the thread, then delete your posts.

Thanking you in advance,

Chris Bangs

http://messageboard.thedoors.com/index.php...28410&st=60
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post Feb 3 2010, 04:52 AM
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Lately I have been getting forgetfull. It's no joke and it's not at all funny. There was a time not too long ago I could tell you exactly where to find this quote or that of JDM's in which book and lots of trivia. Somebody help me out here please? Who is Chris Bangs?
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post Feb 3 2010, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE (Moses Jones @ Feb 3 2010, 07:52 AM) *
Lately I have been getting forgetfull. It's no joke and it's not at all funny. There was a time not too long ago I could tell you exactly where to find this quote or that of JDM's in which book and lots of trivia. Somebody help me out here please? Who is Chris Bangs?



In 2007, a website known as The Free Press Release posted an article about the Chris Bangs story. You can read the article here:

THE SECRET LIFE OF DADDY, JIM MORRISON
By: JH Press
Free Press Release
July 17 2007

http://www.free-press-release.com/news/200...1184689431.html

There was a topic started on the Lizard Lounge in January of 2006 by a person using the ID name of joeschriber asking for information about a man named Chris Bangs being Jim Morrison's biological son. The thread known as, "Jim Morrison's "other" son?, Did Jim Morrison have another son now named Chris Bangs? gained lots of attention.

A person going by the name of Jon Burrows replied and claimed that the rumor started in 1992. The information Jon Burrows provided mirrors that of the Free Press Release article.

Chris Bangs himself replied to the LL thread and debunked the rumor as false. As you know, the Lizard Lounge has weathered several cleanings and along with those cleanings a great majority of the postings disappeared forever. The Chris Bang topic was one of those deleted.

I don't know how the Chris Bangs rumor initally got started or who was the first person to make the claim other than the fact that it was a topic of discussion on LL and Ray Manzarek's Message Board back in 2006. The thread still exists on Manzarek's board http://manzarek.thedoors.com/index.php?showtopic=668

I hope the limited information I have provided helps to answer your question in some small way.
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post Feb 4 2010, 07:37 AM
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What a shame, I was hoping Cliff would have a big brother.
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post Feb 4 2010, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE (Moses Jones @ Feb 4 2010, 07:37 AM) *
What a shame, I was hoping Cliff would have a big brother.


Jim apparently told a couple of friends that he thought he might have children in Texas and Germany. One a son and the other a daughter. At the time, he didn't seem to have any further interest in contacting them and vice versa. We all know about Cliff and his claims, and I find it highly unlikely that he is related in any way to Jim. He did manage to get close to the family and other members of the band for a short while, but the family were ultimately not interested in a relationship, no DNA test was performed and now Cliff is persona non grata with both the Morrison family and the band. He continues to claim he is Morrison's son. This certainly helps his music career, but it's along the same lines as PK's claims of being Jim's widow. In fact, her claims are more legitimate than Cliff's as there is no doubt that she had a relationship of some kind with Jim for a short while.

Either way, and back to Chris Bangs, at least he had the decency to immediately scotch all rumors.
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post Feb 5 2010, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE (mewsical @ Feb 4 2010, 11:43 AM) *
Jim apparently told a couple of friends that he thought he might have children in Texas and Germany. One a son and the other a daughter. At the time, he didn't seem to have any further interest in contacting them and vice versa. We all know about Cliff and his claims, and I find it highly unlikely that he is related in any way to Jim. He did manage to get close to the family and other members of the band for a short while, but the family were ultimately not interested in a relationship, no DNA test was performed and now Cliff is persona non grata with both the Morrison family and the band. He continues to claim he is Morrison's son. This certainly helps his music career, but it's along the same lines as PK's claims of being Jim's widow. In fact, her claims are more legitimate than Cliff's as there is no doubt that she had a relationship of some kind with Jim for a short while.

Either way, and back to Chris Bangs, at least he had the decency to immediately scotch all rumors.



I was just kidding about Clifford.

Maybe Chris Bangs got his bang for the buck by denying it too? You know what they say " any publicity is good publicity if they spell your name right."
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