(60sbaby @ Feb 5 2008, 12:00 PM)
Do you guys remember reading this and did it make you wonder about the whole scene? I haven't finished the book yet (almost), and it is hard to put the book down, but it's usually very late when I get a chance, alone, to read. I get to type at work, but no reading time, only if it's on the computer. Anyway, John expresses his admiration for Jim's talent in the book, but more and more, it seems he grows to dislike who Jim turned into, messing up the band, making life hard for all of them because of Jim's behavior. John is a great writer and is good at expressing how he feels in different circumstances.
When I skimmed through Ray Manzarek's book online, he is Mr. Positive, thinks Jim is great, fun, funny, smart, loving kind of guy who does gets crazy sometimes. Maybe it's the different types of relationships each band member had with Jim. Ray knew Jim at college and it seems they really connected. Maybe that's why John and Ray's opinions are so different regarding Jim. I have heard opinion that Ray writes for money and is not truthful. Maybe Ray might just be a positive person, a do gooder, talks only positive things about people, instead of a critical tongue, I don't really know. Could Ray just view Jim in a completely different light than John? I would enjoy hearing your opinions on this, maybe understand the guys different personalities. Thanks.
yes, john definitely, expresses a love and hate relationship but both ray and john do agree on some things like what happened during the recording on waiting for the sun but they do express jim's downfall in different ways, ray makes reference to jim's other character as "jimbo" and says later that "maybe jim was trying to rid of himself his responsiblitities" because ray wanted the group to go a lot futher but in the end they both knew that changes had to be made if they were going to continue after 1970. About the rosanne/knife incident it would have freaked john out but maybe jim was "testing her bounds" but john knew jim was maybe crazy from the start. Ray formulated or discovered jim and wanted to really work with him which required patience but later on their relationship changed as the group and years went on for eg. the buick ad where jim did not trust their business dealings anymore. This goes to show Jim's take on the doors was a passionate one especially for that time and it showed he cared for what he and the group stood for, but you get 2 points of view from 2 members who formed the doors, who believed and are an important part of the legacy.
I was just going to say that one of my fav parts of the book is when john tries to bluff his way of getting out of joining the army, vietnam -really good story and when he plays his parents the doors first album. keep reading john's bookits really enjoyable and what i call a rock and roll novel.