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#21 Moses Jones

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 07:04 PM

Jack Nicholson Endorses Hillary Clinton

Here Mrs. Clinton says she'll bring our troops home within 60 days of entering office. What's wrong with that?

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 05:34 AM

QUOTE(Moses Jones @ Apr 15 2008, 08:04 PM) View Post
Jack Nicholson Endorses Hillary Clinton

Here Mrs. Clinton says she'll bring our troops home within 60 days of entering office. What's wrong with that?


I don't see troop reductions in the next year...good luck on that though...the battle field may change, but the troop levels will not be reduced...not for a long time

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 05:08 PM

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I don't see troop reductions in the next year...good luck on that though...the battle field may change, but the troop levels will not be reduced...not for a long time


It would be irresponsible for the reduction to happen as quickly as both Obama and Hillary have promised.  The Iraqis have shown they are capable of taking over the reins, but I think 4 months is a bit optimistic.  Maybe a year.  And the United Nations have to have oversight as well.  




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Posted 20 April 2008 - 10:46 PM

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It would be irresponsible for the reduction to happen as quickly as both Obama and Hillary have promised.  The Iraqis have shown they are capable of taking over the reins, but I think 4 months is a bit optimistic.  Maybe a year.  And the United Nations have to have oversight as well.


It would be irresponsible...America cannot leave until they stabilize the situation...I hope the dinosaurs in Washington and the pentagon can learn from their failures...The only reason for America to leave would be if it was decided America was the cause of the instability...Look for Iran to replace America as the major influence in southern Iraq...I just pray America doesn't bomb an Iranian refinery as a measure to stabilize and asset control over the area...

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 09:11 PM

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I have NO PROBLEM with it what so ever.

Infact,  it actually helps educate more people on certain things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lftPVVnFk0A
what I really love,  is how the right wingers will make sarcastic remarks towards the Liberal celebs and their very vocal opinions...
but you never hear the left wingers (or at least i never do?) making sarcastic remarks towards the country music conservative opinions.


Yes, I'm going on the record, right here, right now, endorsing Obama.  I was for Hillary, but then met Barrak at this rally (only for a minute or two)... he looked me straight in the eye, and we had a quick conversation which was very genuine.  Hillary's underlying nature has come out in the last several months, seeming to say anything for the nomination (slinging "too progressive" remarks at Obama, which if you look at her record [see The Nation - Tom Hayden "Why My Wife Screams at the Television When She Sees Hillary"]  you'll see she hung out with many very left thinkers).  Look at how they've run they're campaigns, and you'll see how they'd run the country:  One fights alot with helpers, people get fired or quit, and other has many grass-roots young people with new ideas who feel INCLUDED in trying to figure out how to help this country.   I will vote for the skirt, if the black man gets pushed aside... it's exciting to think of these two as exemplifying a shift... we despiritely need a shift! john d.

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 11:41 PM

Mental note to self use " the skirt" in a conversation this week.

Glad you chimed in here John.

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Posted 03 May 2008 - 06:31 AM

QUOTE(John @ May 2 2008, 10:11 PM) View Post
Yes, I'm going on the record, right here, right now, endorsing Obama.  I was for Hillary, but then met Barrak at this rally (only for a minute or two)... he looked me straight in the eye, and we had a quick conversation which was very genuine.  Hillary's underlying nature has come out in the last several months, seeming to say anything for the nomination (slinging "too progressive" remarks at Obama, which if you look at her record [see The Nation - Tom Hayden "Why My Wife Screams at the Television When She Sees Hillary"]  you'll see she hung out with many very left thinkers).  Look at how they've run they're campaigns, and you'll see how they'd run the country:  One fights alot with helpers, people get fired or quit, and other has many grass-roots young people with new ideas who feel INCLUDED in trying to figure out how to help this country.   I will vote for the skirt, if the black man gets pushed aside... it's exciting to think of these two as exemplifying a shift... we despiritely need a shift! john d.


The best possible ticket would be both of them - it doesn't matter particularly in which order.  However, Mrs. Clinton has many young people with her as well, as Chelsea is quite a lightning rod for them.  As far as recent conduct - we have Mr. Obama throwing his pastor of 20 years under the bus, without any attempt to meet privately with Rev. Wright whatsoever.  What that says about his loyalties I don't know.  All Rev. Wright did in his sermon was to quote Ambassador Peck and now HE'S paying the price for the statements of a white politician, assigned to the region by the Federal Government.  

Mrs. Clinton cannot be called 'the skirt' as she almost always wears a pant suit, John!  And at the moment, she is ahead - this next primary might completely turn the tide.  

I wonder if she will call on John Edwards if she gets the nom.  That would be a great pair.  


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Posted 04 May 2008 - 11:18 PM

Skirt?! huh.gif  John! Hillary a skirt?!  dry.gif OK, then the guys are "Pants"!

Obama-pants when presented with a problem, says (1) nothing is wrong, (2) ignores the problem, (3) says he won't deal with it anymore and throws it under the bus.

I see a long term lifetime pattern here. First the other black kid Obama-pants refused to be seen with because Obama-pants didn't want to share the other kid's isolation in grade school, second O-P denied his long time slum landlord friend who is on trial for questionable financial dealings and who helped him buy his house, third he throws his (former) pastor of 20 years standing under the bus for nasty remarks.

So I guess if Obama-pants wins, we'll have a president who hides from the problem, denies the problem and then throws it under the bus ... Oh gee, we already have one - President Bush-Pants.

I'm voting for the "skirt."  Really, John, Skirt!

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Posted 05 May 2008 - 11:16 AM

Pants and skirt both work for me.   I didn't think we all needed to be completely PC in the midst of friends?  Just glad to see everyone is voting.

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Posted 05 May 2008 - 11:27 AM

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Pants and skirt both work for me.   I didn't think we all needed to be completely PC in the midst of friends?  Just glad to see everyone is voting.

signed,
Jim-pants


And I bet you look lovely in both!  laugh.gif


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Posted 06 May 2008 - 08:47 AM

QUOTE(knowidea @ May 5 2008, 08:16 PM) View Post
Pants and skirt both work for me.   I didn't think we all needed to be completely PC in the midst of friends?  Just glad to see everyone is voting.

signed,
Jim-pants

Ooops. I need to register. Thanks for the remind. - Salli-pants ... I hate skirts .. humid weather. wink.gif

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Posted 18 May 2008 - 06:14 PM

I endorse Obama too....but would not vote for him!

The main issue is Medical Marijuana. Don't let Obama forget that. We are talking about God here.
This is an indicator to knowing how much the Gov. wants to control you.
Any candidate not legalizing herb is scared.

OBAMA ON MEDICAL MARIJUANA LAWS

Obama Pledged To Stop DEA Raids On Oregon Medical Marijuana:

Obama Pledged To Stop The Drug Enforcement Administration's Raids On Oregon Medical Marijuana Growers. Willamette Week: "Would you stop the Drug Enforcement Administration's raids on Oregon medical marijuana grows?" Obama: "I would because I think our federal agents have better things to do, like catching criminals and preventing terrorism. The way I want to approach the issue of medical marijuana is to base it on science. And if there is sound science that supports the use of medical marijuana and if it is controlled and prescribed in a way that other medicine is prescribed, then it's something we should consider." (James Pitkin, "Six Minutes With Barack," Willamette Week, 5/14/08)

RNC RESPONSE TO OBAMA COMMENTS ON MEDICAL MARIJUANA LAWS

RNC Press Office

WASHINGTON, May 14 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- RNC Communications Director Danny Diaz released the following statement today:

"Barack Obama's pledge to stop Executive agencies from implementing laws passed by Congress raises serious doubts about his understanding of what the job of the President of the United States actually is. His refusal to enforce the law reveals that Barack Obama doesn't have the experience necessary to do the job of President, or that he fundamentally lacks the judgment to carry out the most basic functions of the Executive Branch. What other laws would Barack Obama direct federal agents not to enforce?"

But The Presidential Oath Of Office Requires The President To "Preserve, Protect And Defend The Constitution Of The United States":

The Presidential Oath Of Office, As Specified In Article II, Section I Of The U.S. Constitution: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of the President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." (U.S. Department Of State Website, http://usinfo.state.gov/special/inaugurati...ation_oath.html , Accessed 5/14/08)

And The Supreme Court Has Upheld Regulations On Medical Marijuana:

The Supreme Court Ruled In 2001 And 2005, Affirming The Authority Of Congress To Regulate The Use Of Marijuana. "In 2001, the Supreme Court affirmed Congress's 1970 judgment about marijuana in United States v. Oakland Cannabis Buyers' Cooperative et al., 532 U.S. 438 (2001), which held that, given the absence of medical usefulness, medical necessity is not a defense to marijuana prosecution. Furthermore, in Gonzales v. Raich, 125 S.Ct. 2195 (2005), the Supreme Court reaffirmed that the authority of Congress to regulate the use of potentially harmful substances through the federal Controlled Substances Act includes the authority to regulate marijuana of a purely intrastate character, regardless of a state law purporting to authorize 'medical' use of marijuana." (U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration Website, http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/marijuana_position.html , Accessed 5/14/08)

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SOURCE Republican National Committee

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20080514/pl_u..._marijuana_laws

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Posted 18 May 2008 - 11:25 PM

As much as i like to marginalize everything from people to parades...John...who do you think the black man should have as a running mate....between you and me...i wouldn't pick the skirt...I think the skirt should pick him....

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 11:04 AM





May 19, 2008

I'm going on the record, right here, right now, endorsing Hillary. I met her at this rally (only for a minute or two)... she looked me straight in the eye, and we had a quick conversation which was very genuine.  She was very nice and she looks you right in the eye, even when she's on the stage. She spoke for about 45 minutes and never used her notes. In person she's a real cutie. She must be about 5 foot 4, very soft hands... .  I think she liked me.

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 02:50 PM

immediately after...Moses rents the porno...a boy and his mother....

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Posted 20 May 2008 - 12:05 PM

QUOTE(worm man @ May 19 2008, 03:50 PM) View Post
immediately after...Moses rents the porno...a boy and his mother....

Obama can still ruin the whole thing by choosing her as a running mate. That would result in a defeat to McCain.
It is up to him if he wants to lose.

In general, men voting for Clinton is like the Oedipal section of Morrison's in "The End".
What are the women thinking in voting for her? It can not be on the issues. She has no idea what reality is.

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Posted 20 May 2008 - 12:43 PM

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Obama can still ruin the whole thing by choosing her as a running mate. That would result in a defeat to McCain.
It is up to him if he wants to lose.

In general, men voting for Clinton is like the Oedipal section of Morrison's in "The End".
What are the women thinking in voting for her? It can not be on the issues. She has no idea what reality is.


What was that you said about him hanging himself in one day, Jym??  laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif  


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Posted 20 May 2008 - 01:03 PM

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What was that you said about him hanging himself in one day, Jym??  laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


It'll only be  a few days more.

What I'd like to report is that Moses and I had a very cool political discussion on this last night. Some of our opinions may be a little different leaning, but Moses was absolutely impressed with Hillary. I wish Bill Clinton had been a little truer to the liberal during his Presidency and not tried to reach out to the Republicans and the middle, look what it got him. I never understood Republican opposition to the Clintons because of Whitewater?! Surely, Republicans have insider deals and sex scandals in their closests but most of them don't get the extraordinary examination the Clintons were put through all in an attempt for the Republican Congress to have more power, and try to trivialize any gains of the Clinton administration.

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Posted 20 May 2008 - 01:05 PM

I've always kind of avoided this discussion because I think any artists work is inherently political, maybe not in the overt sense of the word but in the interactions of people which can lead up to the traditional meaning of politics.

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Posted 21 May 2008 - 08:00 AM

QUOTE(Moses Jones @ May 19 2008, 02:04 PM) View Post




May 19, 2008

I'm going on the record, right here, right now, endorsing Hillary. I met her at this rally (only for a minute or two)... she looked me straight in the eye, and we had a quick conversation which was very genuine.  She was very nice and she looks you right in the eye, even when she's on the stage. She spoke for about 45 minutes and never used her notes. In person she's a real cutie. She must be about 5 foot 4, very soft hands... .  I think she liked me.


It's official! Because of Moses Jones last minute endorsement of Hillary Clinton the voters of Kentucky threw their support Clinton's way.




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